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December 18, 2013 at 1:11 pm #654
Gary
KeymasterLooking forward to diving deeper with you, and everyone, in here Tom.
Can’t really do that on Twitter or even the blog sometimes.I’m going to have to introduce you all to our longtime friend and assistant John. He also deserves a lot of credit for where we’re at now, and it’s long overdue!
Reason I bring him up too is that he’s been our conditioning/nutrition … “take care of your body” man.
Hoping to learn from you in this area.December 18, 2013 at 2:11 pm #659Tom
ParticipantIn some ways, the nutrition/health topic reminds me of the 3Four3 possession framework and how you’ve responded to people when they asked “Just tell us how to do it,” or “Give us your drills”, and your answer, as I recall, was something like “It’s not just something you can explain in a few drills, or a blog post…it has taken years, etc etc.”
It’s taken years for me in the nutrition/health area to get over the hump of ignorance and misinformation and I still have so much to learn. But I read what so-called experts at even Premier League clubs write about nutrition and I cringe. If I was an owner I’d clean house and bring in my own staff of people day one.
Here is one absurd myth for example: breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Garbage.
December 19, 2013 at 9:56 am #702Alan Portillo
ParticipantTom,
You have me extremely interested in this topic of nutrition/health! Where do you start? I myself have been obese for years and decided that I will not continue this way! I have changed my lifestyle and in the past 9 months I have lost 84lbs. I still have a long way to go but I am determined to live a long healthy life! Any help would be appreciated!
December 19, 2013 at 10:31 am #708Tom
ParticipantGive me some time, I’ll post a response as soon as I get a moment.
December 19, 2013 at 8:14 pm #732Alan Portillo
ParticipantThanks Tom, look forward to it!
December 24, 2013 at 6:44 pm #893David Williams
ParticipantAlan, are you aware of people like Jason Vale (juicemaster.com) Lost weight very quickly sticking to this. He is also releasing a film some time next year, where he took people with some ailments, cleansed their bodies through veg juicing to see if his belief that most diseases are caused through poor nutrition and if you feed the body with the correct nutrients the body will heal itself. Not sure what was wrong with any of them but it is interesting.
5/2 diet is worth doing for many as it is possibly one of the easiest diets to stick to. 5 days eat normal. 2 days no more than 600 cals with a minimum of 8 hrs between meals. Lots of science behind it. Basically it works as after a certain amount of time the body has to burn fat and the great thing is after a day of fasting you can eat anything you like the next day. Watch this http://vimeo.com/54089463 explains it in detail.
December 26, 2013 at 10:21 am #924Tom
ParticipantJuicing can be a great part of the right nutrition program. You have to be careful. You can easily overload your body with too much. And I don’t know about “5/2” diet but the principles of intermittent fasting/overfeed is what I use and it does work if you know what you are doing, even if you are an athlete. I don’t know the specifics of this 5/2 program, but eating “normal” means very different things to different people–in fact it’s totally meaningless–so I am immediately skeptical. Eating anything you want 5 days a week is not a good idea if you want a lifetime of wellness or to perform well as an athlete. The absence of being overweight does not equal good health or fitness.
December 26, 2013 at 4:21 pm #950David Williams
ParticipantHi Tom, watch the link I posted above on 5/2 very interesting results not only on losing weight, but cells repairing themselves.
Not sure what you mean by over doing juicing, unless you are referring to fruit juice. Veg juice is completely safe to do daily.
December 26, 2013 at 4:46 pm #953Tom
ParticipantActually for some people juicing veg daily is not necessarily safe. It depends on the amount of veg juice one drinks and the body type–some people are protein-type, others are carb-type and others are mixed. For protein types, substantial juicing daily could be problematic.
I already understand the key concepts behind 5/2, it’s a type of intermittent fasting and I do intermittent fasting myself but it’s quite different from 5:2. Fasting can provide huge benefits for sure but I think one should focus on wellness and performance not just a crash diet to lose weight. There just isn’t space or time here to get into it.
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December 27, 2013 at 6:04 pm #1083David Williams
Participant“Actually for some people juicing veg daily is not necessarily safe. It depends on the amount of veg juice one drinks and the body type–some people are protein-type, others are carb-type and others are mixed. For protein types, substantial juicing daily could be problematic.”
What evidence is there that it is not safe? How can veg juice not be safe, compared to all the crap that the western world consume?
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December 28, 2013 at 11:44 am #1112Tom
Participant— Following metabolic typing principles, if you are a carb type, vegetable juicing is strongly recommended. If you are a mixed type, it is useful to juice. However, protein types need to be careful and they need to pay close attention to how they feel when drinking it. A glass 2-3 times a week might be plenty. Protein type metabolism needs high amounts of fat, so it’s important to include source of raw fat into the juice like avocado, coconut butter, raw dairy butter etc. Protein types are actually too alkaline and vegetables have high pH making you even more alkaline.
— Regular non-organic veggies are loaded with pesticides unless they are grown yourself . For example, spinach is known to have these dangerous residues: 8 carcinogens, 25 hormone disruptors, 8 neurotoxins, 6 reproductive toxins and 23 honeybee toxins. I recommend using organic veggies.
— Vegetable juice has very little protein and virtually no fat. By itself it is not a complete food. It should be used in addition to your regular meals. So it is probably not a good idea to use juicing as a regular meal replacement, unless you are following a special fasting or detox program. Especially if you are an athlete.
Sources: Metabolic Typing Diet, Dr. Wolcott. Nutritional Typing articles, Dr. Mercola. WhatsOnMyFood IOS app.
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